Weird Wars: Rome Showdown! -Some Units

Hey there,

I thought I will share the Units I created so far for Showdown.


Here are the Unit Stats of some of the Units I created so far with the Troop Builder I mentioned in my last post.

There are some shortcomings that I would like to point out with what you can find here. Automatically included is a small rant :)

A note what was used for the Romans:
The romans shown here are 3 different XP levels for Principii. What is a bit sad about Weird Wars: Rome is that the Triarii and the Principii are the same stats wise... which is a bit sad... I haven't found a neat way of distinguishing them...
So you can also use the stats for the Triarii actually. Where do the stats come from? Well they were taken from the BEASTS & SOLDIERS section of Weird Wars: Rome while the Gear was taken from one of the first chapters!

A note for the Point Cost of the Romans (what was improvised):

• The Troop Builder does not know Pilums so they are calculated as a "Short Spear" which MIGHT be considered as a too low points value...
• The Showdown Rules don't contain a "Shield Wall" Edge. Because of that, I used the "Custom Edge" feature of the builder. For that I added the cost of "3". Please note that others might consider that too low for such a powerful trait. The expensive edges there (like I think "Combat Reflexes") cost "10" points. I decided to make it "cheap" because back in those days this formation /discipline advantage for the Roman Empire was the big advantage that they had, and was one of the reasons why they were so successful. So in my opinion this comes "natural" to the Romans.

At first I will give you the "saves" to use in the troop builder. Please note that as I mentioned in my last post that the "Short Spear" is not saved, so you will have to do that manually!

So here the small list:

Roman Principii (meaning Roman Early Period):

Gear: Found on page 12 under "Legionary" PLUS 2 Pilums! Watch out, you will find that its not written there, but it is mentioned on other places in the Weird Wars: Rome book! Plus its historic to have them.... 

So this leaves you with:

=> Armor +2, Metal helmet, Medium Shield, short sword, two stakes, "shovel". 2 Pilums, meaning 2 Javelins with special Rules.

Stats: Found on page 82 (both Officer and Soldiers) but the Pace is only 6!

There is an Error there saying Pace is 8.

So now to the points cost:

Note if you build a "Unit" then you get 25% off!

Typical Roman Principii: 12 pts / Soldier

Typical Roman Officer: 13 pts / Officer

Experienced Roman Principii: 14 pts / Soldier

Experienced Roman Officer: 16 pts / Officer

Veteran Roman Principii: 15 pts / Soldier

Veteran Roman Officer: 19 pts / Officer

Barbarians (meaning Gauls, Celts, ...):

Gear: Found on page 84 under "Warrior"; one with Axe and Shield and the other with Spear and Shield.
Stats: Found on page 84 under "Warrior"

Typical Axe Warrion: 9 pts / Warrior
Typical Spear Warrior: 9 pts / Warrior

Experienced Axe Warrior: 13 pts / Warrion
Experienced Spear Warrior: 13 pts / Warrion

Veteran Spear/Axe Warrior: 14 pts / Warrion


Here now the "saves" unedited:

First the Barbarians, then the Romans and remember the missing javelin.......

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{"cost":"47","troop_name":"Typical Gaul Spear Warrior","size":"0","count":"12","agility":"2","smarts":"1","spirit":"2","strength":"2","vigor":"2","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"6","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"1","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"","special_ability_description":"","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","spear":"11","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"65","troop_name":"Experienced Gaul Spear Warrior","size":"0","count":"12","agility":"2","smarts":"1","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"1","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","combat_reflexes":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"","special_ability_description":"","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","spear":"11","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"63","troop_name":"Experienced Gaul Axe Warrior","size":"0","count":"12","agility":"2","smarts":"1","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"1","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","combat_reflexes":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"","special_ability_description":"","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","battle_axe":"9","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"69","troop_name":"Veteran Gaul Axe Warriors","size":"0","count":"12","agility":"2","smarts":"1","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"1","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","block":"3","combat_reflexes":"10","frenzy":"3","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"","special_ability_description":"","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","battle_axe":"9","medium_shield":"5"}

The romans:

{"cost":"58","troop_name":"Typical Principii","size":"0","count":"8","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"63","troop_name":"Typical Principii Officer","size":"0","count":"1","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","command":"5","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"71","troop_name":"Experienced Principii","size":"0","count":"8","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","block":"3","combat_reflexes":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"76","troop_name":"Experienced Principii Officer","size":"0","count":"8","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"9","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","block":"3","combat_reflexes":"10","inspire":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"74","troop_name":"Veteran Principii","size":"0","count":"8","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"12","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","block":"3","combat_reflexes":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}

{"cost":"94","troop_name":"Veteran Principii Officer","size":"0","count":"1","agility":"2","smarts":"2","spirit":"2","strength":"3","vigor":"3","arcane":"0","boating":"1","driving":"1","fighting":"12","healing":"1","intimidation":"3","piloting":"1","repair":"1","riding":"1","shooting":"0","swimming":"2","taunt":"1","throwing":"6","pace":"6","flying_pace":"0","block":"3","combat_reflexes":"10","hold_the_line":"10","inspire":"10","other_armor_bonus":"","other_parry_bonus":"","other_toughness_bonus":"","special_ability_cost":"3","special_ability_description":"Shield Wall","special_equipment_cost":"","special_equipment_description":"","rwpn_spear_throwing":"5","short_sword":"6","chain":"2","medium_shield":"5"}